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Topic Started: May 17 2013, 07:00 PM (1,031 Views)
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May 17 2013, 08:34 PM
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May 17 2013, 08:29 PM
Earth's size>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>King Kai's planet size

the only thing King Kai's planet has on Earth is 10x Earth's gravity which doesnt make up the sheer humongous size difference. At the most Goku can vaporize a mountain in BoG and that's generous.
Destroying mountain with shockwaves were introduced in the Cell saga. He completely s***s on those feats now in BoG
You have a video of Goku destroying anything larger than a mountain with a punch? In BoG?

Not just with powerscaling?
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May 17 2013, 08:32 PM
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May 17 2013, 08:23 PM
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May 17 2013, 07:18 PM
King Kai's planet is not an orbital inosolar planet. It's a rock. It's the size of a small building. You can run around it in a minute.

That = not a planet.
actually, king kai's planet is a dwarf planet. it is massive enough to pull itself into a spherical shape. so no, it's not just a rock. it's more massive than even the largest asteroids, it's just also much more dense.

@TDAA if goku were to punch the earth, he would make a hole in the ground. if raditz were to punch the earth, he would also make a hole in the ground. their punches focus their power into a small area, in order to penetrate the defenses of their opponent. the only difference between raditz' punch and goku's is that raditz is going to throw a bunch of rock and dirt out of the way, while goku is just going to vaporize it.

edit for ninja's: piccolo didn't say that. namek is not that big. frieza can't do that, neither can goku.
Ermm...in the anime Piccolo says that Frieza could destroy the whole planet if he wanted too. In the manga however, he's says that Frieza could crush Namek with his raw strength.
Sure you weren't thinking of this?

Chapter: 312 (DBZ 118), P4.4
Context: as Goku and Freeza are staring at each other
Piccolo: “They’re both searching out a moment to come at each other…Anyway, it seems like their stupendous ki alone could crush me…”
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Earth's size>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>King Kai's planet size

the only thing King Kai's planet has on Earth is 10x Earth's gravity which doesnt make up the sheer humongous size difference. At the most Goku can vaporize a mountain in BoG and that's generous.
Destroying mountain with shockwaves were introduced in the Cell saga. He completely s***s on those feats now in BoG
You have a video of Goku destroying anything larger than a mountain with a punch? In BoG?

Not just with powerscaling?
Just asking,does the think when Goku catches a gigantic rock and cuts him in half,and when Cell holds on a meteor?are we counting this as raw power?
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May 17 2013, 08:33 PM
When was Frieza stated to destroy a planet with a punch?
Never. Not with a punch but with raw physical strength.
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May 17 2013, 08:44 PM
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May 17 2013, 08:33 PM
When was Frieza stated to destroy a planet with a punch?
Never. Not with a punch but with raw physical strength.
You lost me here. You mean lifting the planet? Or do you mean by means of ki?

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Can you clear that up a bit more? Im running low on brain power right now.
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When was Frieza stated to destroy a planet with a punch?
Never. Not with a punch but with raw physical strength.
You lost me here. You mean lifting the planet? Or do you mean by means of ki?
No. Just purely doing whatever means necessary to destroy name with raw strength alone
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Can you clear that up a bit more? Im running low on brain power right now.
Sorry about my discussion on that :lol: ,I was referring if Cell when he stop the meteor while waiting for the Cell games with one hand is counting for Raw strenght or just his ki energy?i hope I make myshelf clear :blush:
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When was Frieza stated to destroy a planet with a punch?
Never. Not with a punch but with raw physical strength.
You lost me here. You mean lifting the planet? Or do you mean by means of ki?
No. Just purely doing whatever means necessary to destroy name with raw strength alone
Im lost here again, what do you mean by raw strength alone. If it's not ki and it's not with a punch, or lifting. Then im guessing you mean by literally splitting X planet with raw strength?

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Do you have a video of that? I looked it up but cant find it. Are you sure it's not filler?
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May 17 2013, 08:44 PM
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When was Frieza stated to destroy a planet with a punch?
Never. Not with a punch but with raw physical strength.
You lost me here. You mean lifting the planet? Or do you mean by means of ki?
No. Just purely doing whatever means necessary to destroy name with raw strength alone
Im lost here again, what do you mean by raw strength alone. If it's not ki and it's not with a punch, or lifting. Then im guessing you mean by literally splitting X planet with raw strength?

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Do you have a video of that? I looked it up but cant find it. Are you sure it's not filler?
I believe it might be :blush: anyway its on the episode when Cell says he will make his warm-up exercises before Cell games,plus i can't post a video right now because i am in the forum by iPad,if you don't remember don't bother it was just a stupid question :lol:
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here's wat piccolo says about frieza destroying namek in the manga''

Chapter: 304 (DBZ 110), P8.1
Context: Kuririn says they should have hid from Freeza
Piccolo: “Even if we tried that, he’d just wipe out Planet Namek itself…! He no longer has any attachment to this planet…”


Chapter: 310 (DBZ 116), P11.1
Piccolo: “Freeza’s playing around…If he felt like it, he has the power to wipe out this whole planet…”
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Ss2 Kakarot and Kid Buu were ridiculously strong enough to force enormous enough landmasses to create a small city+ with their punches. Not only was this on a much bigger planet than Earth, if it were to be on Earth even more damage would have been done. Once he hit Ssj3 their fight escalated to a level to where to shockwaves were blowing air waves in the fields across a planet for distance from the Physical Plane. Now KibitoKai wouldn't think that if Goku did not stop that monster, the Universe would literally perish under the power and strength of Majin Buu. He even went as far as to say they shook the heavens due to their heavy hitting. All of the gods together had to come together this creature bcuz it was known to destroy life with its high tier strength and prowess. Goku was the only bloke in existence at the time to challenge this foe with the titanic amount of strength himself. I wouldnt doubt he could rip planets apart with his bare hands. He's held attacks capable of destroying or splitting the Earth. Why not assume a SSj3 could very well pull a planet? The Super Saiyan power is way more than ppl take credit for. Its hard for a guy to go all out if he's been holding back his power mostly all his life due to his good nature of never wanting to accidentally kill someone O.o
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May 17 2013, 08:36 PM
Sure you weren't thinking of this?

Chapter: 312 (DBZ 118), P4.4
Context: as Goku and Freeza are staring at each other
Piccolo: “They’re both searching out a moment to come at each other…Anyway, it seems like their stupendous ki alone could crush me…”
I don't think he was. I do remember Piccolo saying his strength alone could destroy the planet.
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May 17 2013, 11:44 PM
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May 17 2013, 08:36 PM
Sure you weren't thinking of this?

Chapter: 312 (DBZ 118), P4.4
Context: as Goku and Freeza are staring at each other
Piccolo: “They’re both searching out a moment to come at each other…Anyway, it seems like their stupendous ki alone could crush me…”
I don't think he was. I do remember Piccolo saying his strength alone could destroy the planet.
I can't find any quote like that. Other than the one lunar mentioned which said his power could destroy the planet, but that could easily mean Ki attacks...
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I might be thinking of a different translation. But I recall reading Piccolo saying that. Hmmm...I'll probably check the local manga later.
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May 17 2013, 11:44 PM
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May 17 2013, 08:36 PM
Sure you weren't thinking of this?

Chapter: 312 (DBZ 118), P4.4
Context: as Goku and Freeza are staring at each other
Piccolo: “They’re both searching out a moment to come at each other…Anyway, it seems like their stupendous ki alone could crush me…”
I don't think he was. I do remember Piccolo saying his strength alone could destroy the planet.
Thank you. Piccolo was always one of the first to pick up on the opponents rather precisely. Being a villain once himself and showing fear is not to be taken lightly if you know for sure an ungodly situation is happening before you. Well that's IMO but it still stands
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